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If the ACLU doesn't give a damn, does Amnesty International at least have anything whatsoever to say? This is supposed to be their bread and butter, isn't it? "Prisoners of conscience," and all that?

Andy,

Good point. Here is a link to contact information for Amnesty International:

http://www.amnesty.org/en/contact

I searched their site and couldn't find any mention of the case.

Meanwhile, over at the racialist-nationalist forum, "The Phora," the commenter "Lud" makes a legitimate point:

"Apparently they're applying for political asylum in the US while there are outstanding warrants for them in the land of their citizenship.

They're being held because they are non-resident aliens with outstanding criminal(?) warrants from an international jurisdiction. While those warrants themselves may be based on political content alone, that's not the fault of the US. Note the piece does not mention any type of bail like hearing or decision. Bail or release on recognizance might have been offered but they were unwilling or unable to pay.

Let due process take its course. Then you'll see if the US legitimizes the British posiiton."

For what it's worth, the account provided on the Heretical site does mention "a bail like hearing or decision," to wit:

"The judge claimed that she did not have the power to release the Heretical Two under the defensive procedures adopted by the US authorities. The ‘asylum-only proceedings’ for the Heretical Two was heard by immigration judge, Rose Peters, on October 14. An attempt to get them released before the ruling on asylum was denied by the judge, whose reasoning appeared contradictory."

It would be interesting to know more about the judge's reasoning in this instance in order to determine whether it was indeed "contradictory." That's precisely the sort of information that might be reported in greater detail if anyone were doing any reporting on this case at all. But they're not, and that's half my point.

My view, based on what I understand of the facts, is that neither of the men who were tried in the "land of their citizenship" did anything to warrant being tried at all. I'm sure there are procedural points to complicate the story, but I'm not a lawyer and I don't much care. If the same thing were happening to any renowned writer, public arguments would center on first principles, and Amnesty International would be there to rattle the cages.

C'mon - are you seriously surprised?

MRDA,

Honestly? A little. Makes me wonder what else we're missing. Any ideas?


Don't know what we're missing...

...but it's obvious that the so-called "Free World" misses the concept of that auto-appellation.

The ACLU cares not for any case that isn’t Skippy Goebbels approved and the mass-media news IS Skippy Goebbels, regardless of whichever ‘symbols’ they may pay homage to.

Over at the "afcore" forum, someone called "ljp" writes:

"Now I've looked at that site in question (Heretical.com) and it's quite appalling! If this is 'art', stuff like that was done better in EXIT magazine. About the only stuff I can stand reading is Simon Shepperd's tales of working in the British music industry in the 70s and 80s (which has always interested me regardless...)

Anyways I'm torn between standing up for the right to be stupid bigots (if that's what they want), or just standing back thinking those two clowns got what they deserved anyways..."

The question of whether Heretical.com is art is interesting to me. I suppose that my description could be read to imply as much, and in truth I'm fond of Catherine Breillat's assertion that merely asking is enough. I'm familiar with EXIT and George Petros' boundary-flouting swastika-laden sex-violent collage MO. I think it's boring, and certainly well removed removed from Adam Parfey's concept of "aesthetic terrorism," which is the ostensible frame of comparison. AT is all but defined by a volatile combination of incendiary intent and outsider-sincerity, something which is lacking in Petros' calculated artworld gestures, however they're decorated. But with Sheppard and Whittle, the question seems open at the edges. Their gallery is too weird and meticulous to dismiss, too weird and hateful to believe, too weird and polemically ugly to be boring. Could be art. Of the unpretty kind. Does sincere hatred preclude the possibility? Is irony sacred? Who makes these rules?

Not that it should matter. It shouldn't matter. John Hinckley wrote poems where the turmoil and rage bled through. That wasn't his crime. This stuff isn't complicated. Not to me. Life is short, and freedom is exhilarating.

Well this is ljp from the afcore forum. Thank you for printing my comments. Your views of both Heretical and EXIT are quite interesting, and I do think you might have a point there. Funny enough I have returned to Heretical repeatedly, if only in the way of gawking at a car wreck. Yes I have come to the conclusion that Shepperd is indeed being wrongly prosecuted, however...

It's still interesting to read about Shepperd's involvement in the music industry. It's kinda hard to believe someone involved with music would turn to extreme politics as (of course) Ian Stewart Donaldson had...

ljp, I would interested to hear your particular rationale for that final statement.

Just what Chip said. Maybe I still sound ambivalent about it, but people do have a right to free speech.

This is hardly a surprise given the US Gov treatment of Germar Rudolph and Ernst Zundel.

"Just what Chip said. Maybe I still sound ambivalent about it, but people do have a right to free speech."

Hell, I'm even in favor of the rights of free speech and assembly of the sixty or so black psychos who demonstrated in celebration of the murder of the four Oakland cops


Does the nom de outrage Biseor and his old website Biseor's Dreams set the handbells chiming? He keeps a low profile these days but in other times the uni libertarians The Friends Society nee The Fuck Society tussled with him over a series of provocative flash cartoons in which he personified himself as a Batmanlike moral avenger (underage male sidekick in tow) who, in one way or another, incinerates black leadership ( jackson, Sharpton mainly), Tom Cruise and Rob Reiner because AIDS isn't killing them fast enough and several crack houses. I watch his cartoons with a horrible relish, reminding myself that Biseor's non-ironic hateful speech is entitled to the same legal and constitutional protection as Bret Easton Ellis, Dennis Cooper and Robert Mapplethorpe.

I'm startled that this story is so far below the media radar. Once upon a time, 60 Minutes would have done a segment on the jailed Brits. Nat Hentoff would have given the story the time it deserves. Where's the coverage Kenneth?

This is old news. The OC Register article by syndicated columnist Gustavo Arellano ("Ask A Mexican" ) was followed by another in the LA Weekly before the "Heretical Two" were deported back to the EU where they
were sentenced in Leeds to jail terms they are now serving. Hoover Hog was right when he said there was a deafening silence about this case in the American MSM. There was nothing except the two articles that came at the tail end of their pre-lost battle for political asylum in the US.

The current addresses for these "prisoners of conscience" which no human rights org in the world will touch with a ten foot barge pole (Amnesty International considers Holocaust skepticism and relativism a hate crime) are:

Stephen Whittle (“Heretical Two” US Asylum Seeker)
#A8041AA)
Everthorpe Prison
Beck Road
Everthorpe Brough
East Yorkshire HU15 1RB
UNITED KINGDOM

Simon Sheppard (“Heretical Two” US asylum seeker)
#X0106
HMP Wolds
Brough,
East Yorkshire HU15 2JZ
England

Both are avid readers (Whittle reads French) and welcome correspondence, books and magazines from anyone who cares to contact them.

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